I was in this gym for the first time today and really only liked a few of the routes. Some of the routes were rated 5.9 but were more like 5.5 way off. There was one section were the routes were traversing side ways but they sucked! I am new to Fay, but liked the Climbing Place routes a lot better. I meet some people that use to climb at Red Point but left due to the price being hundred more for a couple. There are a lot more military guys climbing at the climbing place since the price is much lower also.\r
Pros: Lots of useless grips
Cons: even the people that climb here don't like how the gym is
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